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	<title>Comments on: Finding Your Way Out Of The Wilderness: Republicans Are Doing It Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Redefining Prosperity &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2632</link>
		<dc:creator>Redefining Prosperity &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] localism, agrarianism, and self-government?  Both Mark and Kyle have made suggestions and laid out critiques of the Republican Party and its attempt to become relevant once again.  I would only add to this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] localism, agrarianism, and self-government?  Both Mark and Kyle have made suggestions and laid out critiques of the Republican Party and its attempt to become relevant once again.  I would only add to this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Comstock</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2468</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, apologies for my pique. My feeling is that 10 years from now &quot;liberal&quot;, &quot;conservative&quot; and &quot;libertarian&quot; are going to mean very different things than they mean now, if they mean anything at all. (Actually I think that&#039;s were we are now, ie  in the wilderness.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, apologies for my pique. My feeling is that 10 years from now &#8220;liberal&#8221;, &#8220;conservative&#8221; and &#8220;libertarian&#8221; are going to mean very different things than they mean now, if they mean anything at all. (Actually I think that&#8217;s were we are now, ie  in the wilderness.)</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The GOP&#8217;s Road to Relevance</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2461</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The GOP&#8217;s Road to Relevance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post yesterday the other day about the need for the GOP to stop focusing on &#8220;how&#8221; it was going to come [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post yesterday the other day about the need for the GOP to stop focusing on &#8220;how&#8221; it was going to come [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The GOP&#8217;s Road to Relevance &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2460</link>
		<dc:creator>The GOP&#8217;s Road to Relevance &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post yesterday the other day about the need for the GOP to stop focusing on &#8220;how&#8221; it was going to come [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post yesterday the other day about the need for the GOP to stop focusing on &#8220;how&#8221; it was going to come [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2458</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony, I&#039;m sorry if you misconstrued my intent with serious and substantive.  That was directed more at my &quot;lulz&quot; comment and not at your comments at all.

As for Jefferson, I consider him a libertarian which, in my mind is the intellectual center of true conservatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, I&#8217;m sorry if you misconstrued my intent with serious and substantive.  That was directed more at my &#8220;lulz&#8221; comment and not at your comments at all.</p>
<p>As for Jefferson, I consider him a libertarian which, in my mind is the intellectual center of true conservatism.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Comstock</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2456</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, I&#039;m sorry you don&#039;t find my commentary on the political wilderness that we -- Democrats, Republicans, and everyone else -- have blundered into serious and substantive. 

Also, I am confused.  Are we now calling Thomas Jefferson a conservative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, I&#8217;m sorry you don&#8217;t find my commentary on the political wilderness that we &#8212; Democrats, Republicans, and everyone else &#8212; have blundered into serious and substantive. </p>
<p>Also, I am confused.  Are we now calling Thomas Jefferson a conservative?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2448</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lulz @ Kain.

On a more serious and substantive note, I wanted to address Mike&#039;s points earlier up in the discussion and I think he is very much correct, and this point has led to many frustrations as both a liberal and a Democrat.

The fact that liberals tend to be more individually minded often times is a political handicap as liberals tend to misunderstand politics and frequently lack cohesiveness even at opportune moments.  The liberal blogosphere during the 2008 general election was simply amazing to me and very uncharacteristic for liberals in general.  Outside of that, it&#039;s not overly difficult to find liberals fighting just as much amongst each other as they will with Republicans.

What Mike touches on with Republicans may be better addressed by the League&#039;s conservatives and libertarians, but I have observed much more of a tendancy towards developing a cult of personality, for the time being, that personality is Ronald Reagan.

In fact, as I was covering the presidential primaries, I remarked numerous times just how frequently Republican candidates attempted to establish themselves as the next Ronald Reagan, invoking the late President&#039;s name over and over again, almost as though, if you said it enough, people would believe you were him reincarnated.

The funny thing is, I think these canonized figures of both parties will do more harm than good politically.  If you are comparing yourself to Ronald Reagan or JFK, if you are using them as yardsticks, does that not only show your own shortcomings all the more?

On a final note, I do so love making the distinction between the different kinds of conservatism.  From my point of view, there are actually only two types: actual conservatism based upon the conservative (dictionary definition) principles or Jeffersonian principles.  To me, this kind of conservatism is equal across the board--smaller government in terms of foreign policy, economy, and social issues.

The other kind of conservatism with a broad stroke is much more malleable, and is defined as anything right of center which chooses to self identify as conservative.  And now I must leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lulz @ Kain.</p>
<p>On a more serious and substantive note, I wanted to address Mike&#8217;s points earlier up in the discussion and I think he is very much correct, and this point has led to many frustrations as both a liberal and a Democrat.</p>
<p>The fact that liberals tend to be more individually minded often times is a political handicap as liberals tend to misunderstand politics and frequently lack cohesiveness even at opportune moments.  The liberal blogosphere during the 2008 general election was simply amazing to me and very uncharacteristic for liberals in general.  Outside of that, it&#8217;s not overly difficult to find liberals fighting just as much amongst each other as they will with Republicans.</p>
<p>What Mike touches on with Republicans may be better addressed by the League&#8217;s conservatives and libertarians, but I have observed much more of a tendancy towards developing a cult of personality, for the time being, that personality is Ronald Reagan.</p>
<p>In fact, as I was covering the presidential primaries, I remarked numerous times just how frequently Republican candidates attempted to establish themselves as the next Ronald Reagan, invoking the late President&#8217;s name over and over again, almost as though, if you said it enough, people would believe you were him reincarnated.</p>
<p>The funny thing is, I think these canonized figures of both parties will do more harm than good politically.  If you are comparing yourself to Ronald Reagan or JFK, if you are using them as yardsticks, does that not only show your own shortcomings all the more?</p>
<p>On a final note, I do so love making the distinction between the different kinds of conservatism.  From my point of view, there are actually only two types: actual conservatism based upon the conservative (dictionary definition) principles or Jeffersonian principles.  To me, this kind of conservatism is equal across the board&#8211;smaller government in terms of foreign policy, economy, and social issues.</p>
<p>The other kind of conservatism with a broad stroke is much more malleable, and is defined as anything right of center which chooses to self identify as conservative.  And now I must leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Comstock</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2437</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: E.D. Kain</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2434</link>
		<dc:creator>E.D. Kain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As evidenced by their capture of the Senate, House, and Presidency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As evidenced by their capture of the Senate, House, and Presidency?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Comstock</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/02/finding-your-way-out-of-the-wilderness-republicans-are-doing-it-wrong/#comment-2433</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What no one seems to have noticed (yet) is that the Democratic party has blundered into the wilderness as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What no one seems to have noticed (yet) is that the Democratic party has blundered into the wilderness as well.</p>
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