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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9989</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  A lot of the reporting and wording by the TV media is terrible. One instance is simple omission of details.  Over and over the TV media&#039;s wording in their short sound bytes would lead a casual observer to think that Iran&#039;s elections are comparable to the US.  I think it&#039;d be more helpful if more people realized the true structure of Iranian elections so Joe Six Pack might realize that the Iranian people as a whole may not be represented by the Government.  I frankly find it encouraging that a whole 30% of Iranians have a positive view of the US given the past history, with the playing both sides in the Iran/Iraq war, accidentally shooting down one of their civilian aircraft, ect... and if more people are more aware of this then it helps more US citizens see that not all Iranians are demanding Israel be wiped off the map or call the US the Great Satan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  A lot of the reporting and wording by the TV media is terrible. One instance is simple omission of details.  Over and over the TV media&#8217;s wording in their short sound bytes would lead a casual observer to think that Iran&#8217;s elections are comparable to the US.  I think it&#8217;d be more helpful if more people realized the true structure of Iranian elections so Joe Six Pack might realize that the Iranian people as a whole may not be represented by the Government.  I frankly find it encouraging that a whole 30% of Iranians have a positive view of the US given the past history, with the playing both sides in the Iran/Iraq war, accidentally shooting down one of their civilian aircraft, ect&#8230; and if more people are more aware of this then it helps more US citizens see that not all Iranians are demanding Israel be wiped off the map or call the US the Great Satan.</p>
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		<title>By: Analysis Is Not A Fish You Can Twitter &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9955</link>
		<dc:creator>Analysis Is Not A Fish You Can Twitter &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for its utter lack of action in covering Iran&#8217;s political upheval. Here at the League, E.D. voiced his own surprise and exasperation at the lack of information flowing through the mediums by which a ubiquitous number of people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for its utter lack of action in covering Iran&#8217;s political upheval. Here at the League, E.D. voiced his own surprise and exasperation at the lack of information flowing through the mediums by which a ubiquitous number of people [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Iran and the Media &#171; Weather Station 1</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9934</link>
		<dc:creator>Iran and the Media &#171; Weather Station 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Log on to Digg, Reddit or Twitter, and what you see is Iran Iran Iran &#8230; You know what? Someone else explained this better than I can. Let me quote: We are witnessing two revolutions here – one, the “green revolution” in Iran [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Log on to Digg, Reddit or Twitter, and what you see is Iran Iran Iran &#8230; You know what? Someone else explained this better than I can. Let me quote: We are witnessing two revolutions here – one, the “green revolution” in Iran [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;The Iranians, They&#8217;ve Taken To The Streets&#8221; &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9926</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;The Iranians, They&#8217;ve Taken To The Streets&#8221; &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] E.D. Kain [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Judd</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9878</link>
		<dc:creator>Judd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not necessarily. Why does everyone in the country have to be completely informed for the country to go to war? We trust our leaders to make those decisions for us so we can live our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not necessarily. Why does everyone in the country have to be completely informed for the country to go to war? We trust our leaders to make those decisions for us so we can live our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Quarrel-Iranian Election Edition &#171; MDH News</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9807</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Quarrel-Iranian Election Edition &#171; MDH News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Tehran since the election. The people of Iran are calling BS on Ahmadinejad&#8217;s victory. There seems to be a widespread belief that television news has completely dropped the ball on this i..., but I did see coverage of the Iranian election on Saturday afternoon on cable news while brunching [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Tehran since the election. The people of Iran are calling BS on Ahmadinejad&#8217;s victory. There seems to be a widespread belief that television news has completely dropped the ball on this i&#8230;, but I did see coverage of the Iranian election on Saturday afternoon on cable news while brunching [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9805</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll split the difference with you. Ostensibly, Americans are more likely to choose isolationism over interventionism any day of the week. Americans also don&#039;t &quot;react&quot; to elections beyond the statement of applause or condemnation. 

However, widespread awareness of Iran will lead to opinions, polling, etc... which will have a narrowing effect on the options that national leaders can and will have to respond to the Iranian election. Also, IIRC, studies generally show that misinformation leads to bias in decision making that isn&#039;t present when given less information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll split the difference with you. Ostensibly, Americans are more likely to choose isolationism over interventionism any day of the week. Americans also don&#8217;t &#8220;react&#8221; to elections beyond the statement of applause or condemnation. </p>
<p>However, widespread awareness of Iran will lead to opinions, polling, etc&#8230; which will have a narrowing effect on the options that national leaders can and will have to respond to the Iranian election. Also, IIRC, studies generally show that misinformation leads to bias in decision making that isn&#8217;t present when given less information.</p>
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		<title>By: Tehran Screams In The Night, Did Anyone Hear It? &#171; Vogue Republic</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9803</link>
		<dc:creator>Tehran Screams In The Night, Did Anyone Hear It? &#171; Vogue Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] E.D. has a similarly themed post. Interesting stuff. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Is Election 08 Too Early To [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9801</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better check out Spengler at First Things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better check out Spengler at First Things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybird</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/living-in-another-universe/#comment-9771</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not arguing that ignorance is strength.

I am arguing that what is happening in Iran is far, far more likely to be broken by our interference than it is likely to be helped to flourish.

Historically, our arrogance in shoving our noses into the business of others has resulted in far more things broken than in things being made better.

I find it exceptionally unlikely that the attitude that, dude, we should totally do something would have a different result this time.

(Though, certainly, we&#039;d be able to say that we didn&#039;t *INTEND* for the outcome that we got with as much earnestness as the last hundred times... In the meantime, however, I suspect that we should just comfort ourselves with the thought that those who don&#039;t think we should interfere are really authoritarian sympathizers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not arguing that ignorance is strength.</p>
<p>I am arguing that what is happening in Iran is far, far more likely to be broken by our interference than it is likely to be helped to flourish.</p>
<p>Historically, our arrogance in shoving our noses into the business of others has resulted in far more things broken than in things being made better.</p>
<p>I find it exceptionally unlikely that the attitude that, dude, we should totally do something would have a different result this time.</p>
<p>(Though, certainly, we&#8217;d be able to say that we didn&#8217;t *INTEND* for the outcome that we got with as much earnestness as the last hundred times&#8230; In the meantime, however, I suspect that we should just comfort ourselves with the thought that those who don&#8217;t think we should interfere are really authoritarian sympathizers.)</p>
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