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	<title>Comments on: The Great Debate &#8211; Redux</title>
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		<title>By: Reflections on the Great Debate Part II &#171; Vogue Republic</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/the-great-debate-redux/#comment-10938</link>
		<dc:creator>Reflections on the Great Debate Part II &#171; Vogue Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the Great Debate Part&#160;II  Following this original debate and then this post, more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Conservatism The New Old or Old New? &#171; Vogue Republic</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/the-great-debate-redux/#comment-10937</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservatism The New Old or Old New? &#171; Vogue Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Conservatism The New Old or Old&#160;New?  I finally got around to listening to &#8220;The Great Debate &#8211; Redux&#8221; between Conor Friedersdorf and Dan Riehl at The League. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: personae non gratae &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
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		<dc:creator>personae non gratae &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] doing from time to time.  Take Dan Riehl for instance, who graced us recently with a discussion between him and Conor Frieserdorf, hosted by our own Brother Scott.  Now, we all appreciated that discussion and thought it was a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] doing from time to time.  Take Dan Riehl for instance, who graced us recently with a discussion between him and Conor Frieserdorf, hosted by our own Brother Scott.  Now, we all appreciated that discussion and thought it was a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Disappearance Of &#8220;c&#8221; and the Young Cons &#171; The Other Right</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/the-great-debate-redux/#comment-10573</link>
		<dc:creator>The Disappearance Of &#8220;c&#8221; and the Young Cons &#171; The Other Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m a bit late to this, but I&#8217;ve been ruminating on something that was said in the Conor/Riehl debate&#8230; As Conor later summed it up: As best I can tell, Dan thinks that Ronald Reagan was a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m a bit late to this, but I&#8217;ve been ruminating on something that was said in the Conor/Riehl debate&#8230; As Conor later summed it up: As best I can tell, Dan thinks that Ronald Reagan was a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It Has That Nixon/Kennedy Smell To It &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/the-great-debate-redux/#comment-10529</link>
		<dc:creator>It Has That Nixon/Kennedy Smell To It &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] League hosting a debate between Dan Riehl and Conor Friedersdorf, moderated by Scott H. Payne. A partial transcript is available at Federalist [...]</description>
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		<title>By: another thought on empire &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/the-great-debate-redux/#comment-10465</link>
		<dc:creator>another thought on empire &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at the Federalist Paupers has posted a bit of the Conor/Riehl debate Scott hosted in transcript form.  One exchange that leaps out: Freidersdorf:  I would say that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Federalist Paupers &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Freidersdorf v. Reihl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Federalist Paupers &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Freidersdorf v. Reihl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Levin&#8217;s bullying, but digressed from there.  The League of Ordinary Gentlemen hosted a Skype debate between the two of them earlier this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Will the Real Conservative(s) Please Stay Where You Are? &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/06/the-great-debate-redux/#comment-10190</link>
		<dc:creator>Will the Real Conservative(s) Please Stay Where You Are? &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over at Theopolitical has a very sharp post up analyzing the epic (can I call it epic yet?) debate between Conor and Dan (well moderated by Br. Scott) here at the League over the nature and future of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LaMoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaMoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed the middle section with Dan defending Bush&#039;s most important policy--the Iraq War--as politically necessary even though in conflict with conservative principles. And all of this in the context of demanding some kind of consistency in those who call themselves conservative.

It was especially delicious to hear his glee at having hit upon what he believes is an awesome argument in favor of the Iraq invasion: what else were we supposed to do? 

Too bad Conor didn&#039;t point out the obvious answer: continue to contain Saddam as we have mostly always done with what are considered to be dangerous dictators. 9/11 shouldn&#039;t have given us the license to act like reactionary engorged morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed the middle section with Dan defending Bush&#8217;s most important policy&#8211;the Iraq War&#8211;as politically necessary even though in conflict with conservative principles. And all of this in the context of demanding some kind of consistency in those who call themselves conservative.</p>
<p>It was especially delicious to hear his glee at having hit upon what he believes is an awesome argument in favor of the Iraq invasion: what else were we supposed to do? </p>
<p>Too bad Conor didn&#8217;t point out the obvious answer: continue to contain Saddam as we have mostly always done with what are considered to be dangerous dictators. 9/11 shouldn&#8217;t have given us the license to act like reactionary engorged morons.</p>
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		<title>By: In Which Davey Rants Long and Hard : Half Past Noon</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Which Davey Rants Long and Hard : Half Past Noon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Skype debate between Conor Friedersdorf and Dan Riehl over the future of conservatism is still making waves in the conservative blogosphere. The debate itself developed into a no-holds-barred prize match between the old Reaganite conservatism and the emerging young conservatism (of the Brooks/Douthat/AmConMag wing). I only wish Friedersdorf had pushed back harder concerning the historical legitimacy of the emerging conservatism, which actually has a much better pedigree than Reaganism. Frankly, Riehl&#8217;s assertions about the universally-accepted tenets of conservatism were historically myopic &#8212; barely thirty years old. Conor could have pointed out the log in Riehl&#8217;s eye even while Riehl complained about the speck in Conor&#8217;s. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Skype debate between Conor Friedersdorf and Dan Riehl over the future of conservatism is still making waves in the conservative blogosphere. The debate itself developed into a no-holds-barred prize match between the old Reaganite conservatism and the emerging young conservatism (of the Brooks/Douthat/AmConMag wing). I only wish Friedersdorf had pushed back harder concerning the historical legitimacy of the emerging conservatism, which actually has a much better pedigree than Reaganism. Frankly, Riehl&#8217;s assertions about the universally-accepted tenets of conservatism were historically myopic &#8212; barely thirty years old. Conor could have pointed out the log in Riehl&#8217;s eye even while Riehl complained about the speck in Conor&#8217;s. [...]</p>
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