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		<title>By: Good legislation makes everyone happy! &#171; The United States of Jamerica</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20429</link>
		<dc:creator>Good legislation makes everyone happy! &#171; The United States of Jamerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Good legislation makes everyone&#160;happy! 2009 September 8   tags: echoes of 1994, elections, health care reform by Jamelle   (cross-posted from the League of Ordinary Gentlemen) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Good legislation makes everyone&nbsp;happy! 2009 September 8   tags: echoes of 1994, elections, health care reform by Jamelle   (cross-posted from the League of Ordinary Gentlemen) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybird</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20396</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s another thing like the election. People were talking about how he was foundering after (only barely!) beating Hillary and we can&#039;t count out the PUMA vote and &quot;silent majority&quot; and all that while Obama was 27 steps ahead of McCain/Palin... which was demonstrated on election day.

Maybe he&#039;s 27 steps ahead of everybody again and will demonstrate that with his health care reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s another thing like the election. People were talking about how he was foundering after (only barely!) beating Hillary and we can&#8217;t count out the PUMA vote and &#8220;silent majority&#8221; and all that while Obama was 27 steps ahead of McCain/Palin&#8230; which was demonstrated on election day.</p>
<p>Maybe he&#8217;s 27 steps ahead of everybody again and will demonstrate that with his health care reform.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike at The Big Stick</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20392</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike at The Big Stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t madated coverage control costs by increasing the pool of money going into the coverage funds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t madated coverage control costs by increasing the pool of money going into the coverage funds?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20391</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well (tongue in cheek, mostly), Obama still doesn&#039;t have any serious opponents to his right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well (tongue in cheek, mostly), Obama still doesn&#8217;t have any serious opponents to his right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it ain&#039;t my argument. Bobby Rush does well to dismantle it, though. I imagine that those guys would point out that Obama has never seen a serious opponent to his Right... excepting Hillary (and even she isn&#039;t that much Righter than he is).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it ain&#8217;t my argument. Bobby Rush does well to dismantle it, though. I imagine that those guys would point out that Obama has never seen a serious opponent to his Right&#8230; excepting Hillary (and even she isn&#8217;t that much Righter than he is).</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph FM</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20388</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph FM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to second this comment.

I feel like, coming from the Senate and perhaps overcompensating for the Bush-Cheney-DeLay era, Obama has been a little too deferential to Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to second this comment.</p>
<p>I feel like, coming from the Senate and perhaps overcompensating for the Bush-Cheney-DeLay era, Obama has been a little too deferential to Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph FM</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20387</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph FM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Bobby Rush? Obama &lt;i&gt;lost&lt;/i&gt;. Granted I&#039;m neither a Chicagoan nor a particularly close follower of black politics outside of Florida, but was that not a &quot;real fight&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Bobby Rush? Obama <i>lost</i>. Granted I&#8217;m neither a Chicagoan nor a particularly close follower of black politics outside of Florida, but was that not a &#8220;real fight&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20386</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low.

1) was a major priority for me - and, even more importantly, restoring some kind of sanity to the Gitmo/torture/etc. aspect of the Bush presidency - and we have gotten very little of that.  Holder&#039;s recent actions have been somewhat encouraging, but we&#039;ll see.

I am mostly indifferent to 2).  Americans simply don&#039;t care that they&#039;re destroying the planet, and it&#039;s vanishingly unlikely that we&#039;ll ever see meaningful action on climate change.  If I get worked up about that, I&#039;ll never sleep again.  So I just ignore it.

And we&#039;ll get 3).  It may be less than ideal, but there&#039;s no real turning back now.  The entire Democratic caucus needs this, so they&#039;ll see it done.  However imperfect it is, I will take a bunt single at this point and hope someone else can drive the runner home.

But the places where Obama has real control over policy (rather than the made-up idea that he can just legislate from the Oval Office) are things like war, torture, DADT, transparency, and the Supreme Court.  And so far I am largely unimpressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Low.</p>
<p>1) was a major priority for me &#8211; and, even more importantly, restoring some kind of sanity to the Gitmo/torture/etc. aspect of the Bush presidency &#8211; and we have gotten very little of that.  Holder&#8217;s recent actions have been somewhat encouraging, but we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>I am mostly indifferent to 2).  Americans simply don&#8217;t care that they&#8217;re destroying the planet, and it&#8217;s vanishingly unlikely that we&#8217;ll ever see meaningful action on climate change.  If I get worked up about that, I&#8217;ll never sleep again.  So I just ignore it.</p>
<p>And we&#8217;ll get 3).  It may be less than ideal, but there&#8217;s no real turning back now.  The entire Democratic caucus needs this, so they&#8217;ll see it done.  However imperfect it is, I will take a bunt single at this point and hope someone else can drive the runner home.</p>
<p>But the places where Obama has real control over policy (rather than the made-up idea that he can just legislate from the Oval Office) are things like war, torture, DADT, transparency, and the Supreme Court.  And so far I am largely unimpressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph FM</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20385</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph FM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note the &quot;if nothing changes&quot; disclaimer. It&#039;s not a &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; solution. I never said it was. That said, that kind of social unrest seems like it might be necessary to actually make the needed cuts in Medicare services. Absent that, the only thing that would actually effectively control costs is exactly the kind of rationing (and pay cuts for doctors) that are currently impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the &#8220;if nothing changes&#8221; disclaimer. It&#8217;s not a <i>good</i> solution. I never said it was. That said, that kind of social unrest seems like it might be necessary to actually make the needed cuts in Medicare services. Absent that, the only thing that would actually effectively control costs is exactly the kind of rationing (and pay cuts for doctors) that are currently impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/09/good-legislation-makes-everyone-happy/#comment-20382</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the Democrats?  Really?  There are 60 (59) of them, sure, and about 5 of them (maybe) are really problematic.  But there are 40 Republicans, and basically 39 of them will vote no on literally any bill that comes up.  And they&#039;ll filibuster it!  How is this the Democrats&#039; fault?  It takes 41 to create a disaster here.  And the majority of that 41 are not Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the Democrats?  Really?  There are 60 (59) of them, sure, and about 5 of them (maybe) are really problematic.  But there are 40 Republicans, and basically 39 of them will vote no on literally any bill that comes up.  And they&#8217;ll filibuster it!  How is this the Democrats&#8217; fault?  It takes 41 to create a disaster here.  And the majority of that 41 are not Democrats.</p>
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