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		<title>By: Justin_Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28197</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin_Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank Allah/God/Richard Dawkins. 
That drivel really was degrading what is generally one of the best comment sections of any blog I&#039;ve come upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank Allah/God/Richard Dawkins.<br />
That drivel really was degrading what is generally one of the best comment sections of any blog I&#8217;ve come upon.</p>
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		<title>By: historystudent</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28190</link>
		<dc:creator>historystudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From what I can see, there’s two things about the dissident Right which have gone unremarked. Much of the energy behind it comes from personal antipathy toward President Bush and his Administration more than substantive disagreements with the mainstream Right. Second, the dissident Right partakes, even more than the average bear, in the general sense of hopelessness and despair permeating the culture. Neither does anything useful for anybody.&quot;

I disagree. It wasn&#039;t a personal dislike of the man, Bush, that was the motivating factor. It is the irresponsible policies he undertook and the consequences for our country. His actions did then affect how many felt about him, but he personally was not originally a target of acrimony. That distinction is important.

And as for &quot;hopelessness and despair,&quot; such a characterization suggests a misunderstand. Very conservative people (I don&#039;t label myself or others with whom I share at least some agreement as &quot;dissidents&quot;) are certainly worried about the state of our country. But I think it is fair to say that at least many of us believe firmly that it is still possible to steer this nation back on solid ground if we can rally enough people to properly focus on the most important issues, the most looming threats to our republic. We are trying our best to look honestly as what is really happening and not stick our heads in the sand about what could potentially hit us. That is simply facing up to actual conditions around us and what could be coming down the pike --  and it is a necessary prerequisite before anyone can decide to work to change the underlying causes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From what I can see, there’s two things about the dissident Right which have gone unremarked. Much of the energy behind it comes from personal antipathy toward President Bush and his Administration more than substantive disagreements with the mainstream Right. Second, the dissident Right partakes, even more than the average bear, in the general sense of hopelessness and despair permeating the culture. Neither does anything useful for anybody.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree. It wasn&#8217;t a personal dislike of the man, Bush, that was the motivating factor. It is the irresponsible policies he undertook and the consequences for our country. His actions did then affect how many felt about him, but he personally was not originally a target of acrimony. That distinction is important.</p>
<p>And as for &#8220;hopelessness and despair,&#8221; such a characterization suggests a misunderstand. Very conservative people (I don&#8217;t label myself or others with whom I share at least some agreement as &#8220;dissidents&#8221;) are certainly worried about the state of our country. But I think it is fair to say that at least many of us believe firmly that it is still possible to steer this nation back on solid ground if we can rally enough people to properly focus on the most important issues, the most looming threats to our republic. We are trying our best to look honestly as what is really happening and not stick our heads in the sand about what could potentially hit us. That is simply facing up to actual conditions around us and what could be coming down the pike &#8212;  and it is a necessary prerequisite before anyone can decide to work to change the underlying causes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybird</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28167</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Analyzing humor is like dissecting a frog. Few people are interested and the frog dies of it.&quot; -- EB White.

(&quot;It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations.&quot; -- Winston Churchill)

Anyway, the process went something like this.

North commented on Matoko&#039;s comment, then Matoko wrote back in her own inimitable style and then North pointed out that Matoko did not read his question. At that point, I made my joke that she didn&#039;t read it (the implication being that certain key words automatically result in her belching out a response).

That&#039;s all.

Indeed, the frog is toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Analyzing humor is like dissecting a frog. Few people are interested and the frog dies of it.&#8221; &#8212; EB White.</p>
<p>(&#8220;It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations.&#8221; &#8212; Winston Churchill)</p>
<p>Anyway, the process went something like this.</p>
<p>North commented on Matoko&#8217;s comment, then Matoko wrote back in her own inimitable style and then North pointed out that Matoko did not read his question. At that point, I made my joke that she didn&#8217;t read it (the implication being that certain key words automatically result in her belching out a response).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>Indeed, the frog is toast.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybird</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it sunk in that her spelling and grammar were reflecting a limitation rather than laziness, I realized that I was being cruel, rather than merely &quot;in kind&quot;, if I responded to her like I would have, say, anyone else in comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it sunk in that her spelling and grammar were reflecting a limitation rather than laziness, I realized that I was being cruel, rather than merely &#8220;in kind&#8221;, if I responded to her like I would have, say, anyone else in comments.</p>
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		<title>By: E.D. Kain</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28163</link>
		<dc:creator>E.D. Kain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - I appreciate your input.  I may be wrong on this, of course.  I&#039;m just in no mood to actually be wrong at the moment.  My patience has been tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; I appreciate your input.  I may be wrong on this, of course.  I&#8217;m just in no mood to actually be wrong at the moment.  My patience has been tried.</p>
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		<title>By: Koz</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28162</link>
		<dc:creator>Koz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I don’t see Charles Johnsons traffic dropping off.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I do.  I don&#039;t care so much about his flame wars but the upshot of all of it is that he has no influence with any significant political or demographic element.  IIRC, you are the only one who&#039;s cited him in the last couple of months or so, which should tell you something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I don’t see Charles Johnsons traffic dropping off.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I do.  I don&#8217;t care so much about his flame wars but the upshot of all of it is that he has no influence with any significant political or demographic element.  IIRC, you are the only one who&#8217;s cited him in the last couple of months or so, which should tell you something.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28161</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only wanted to voice my feelings.  I did so, the end.  Later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only wanted to voice my feelings.  I did so, the end.  Later.</p>
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		<title>By: E.D. Kain</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28160</link>
		<dc:creator>E.D. Kain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve mainly ignored her, Bob.  Until this thread.  And this is quite a lot of pestering and name-calling with basically no gasoline thrown on any fire from my corner.  Sure, on this thread I shot back.  That&#039;s my wits end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve mainly ignored her, Bob.  Until this thread.  And this is quite a lot of pestering and name-calling with basically no gasoline thrown on any fire from my corner.  Sure, on this thread I shot back.  That&#8217;s my wits end.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28158</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You were much nicer than I would have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were much nicer than I would have been.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/against-the-wind/#comment-28157</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you were provoked but you you threw a good bit of gasoline on the fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you were provoked but you you threw a good bit of gasoline on the fire.</p>
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