Comments on: Douthat calls for open religious warfare; thousands perish in ensuing Crusade http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:09:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Murali http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-28366 Murali Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:39:50 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-28366 Wahhabism is at most the religion followed by saudi arabia which consists of 27 million people. The number of people who subscribe to all of its doctrinal points would probably be lower. number of muslims in the world are 1.5 billion. Wahabbism is way not a mainstream muslim movement. Its not even clear if it is the Wahabbi aspect of Wahabbism (unitarianism, not a direct translation but what they call themselves) that causes this jihadism. It is more that they also often are Salafists, who are literalists, who are alienated from all things non-muslim and are vulnerable to jihadist propaganda. But Salafi jihadism is a fringe movement, consisting of less than 1% of the muslim population in the world. Wahhabism is at most the religion followed by saudi arabia which consists of 27 million people. The number of people who subscribe to all of its doctrinal points would probably be lower. number of muslims in the world are 1.5 billion. Wahabbism is way not a mainstream muslim movement. Its not even clear if it is the Wahabbi aspect of Wahabbism (unitarianism, not a direct translation but what they call themselves) that causes this jihadism. It is more that they also often are Salafists, who are literalists, who are alienated from all things non-muslim and are vulnerable to jihadist propaganda. But Salafi jihadism is a fringe movement, consisting of less than 1% of the muslim population in the world.

]]> By: 1096, Party Over, Oops, Out Of Time « Around The Sphere http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-28294 1096, Party Over, Oops, Out Of Time « Around The Sphere Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:42:14 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-28294 [...] Will at The [...] [...] Will at The [...]

]]> By: Roque Nuevo http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27806 Roque Nuevo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:54:09 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27806 <blockquote><i>Islam is the next evolutionary stage of monothesim</i></blockquote>Very true. Monothesim means militant intolerance of other beliefs, not "one god". In the case of Judaism and Christianity this intolerance means social isolation. In the case of Islam it means death. This is how your prophet "proofed the people". Looking at the wholy desructive results of monothism and it's "highest evolutionary form" of Islam, polytheism is preferable.

Islam is the next evolutionary stage of monothesim

Very true. Monothesim means militant intolerance of other beliefs, not “one god”. In the case of Judaism and Christianity this intolerance means social isolation. In the case of Islam it means death. This is how your prophet “proofed the people”. Looking at the wholy desructive results of monothism and it’s “highest evolutionary form” of Islam, polytheism is preferable.

]]> By: bugsey http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27805 bugsey Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:47:57 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27805 I disagree. Sun Tzu couldn't have said it better. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" rather... (not a gentleman) I disagree. Sun Tzu couldn’t have said it better. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” rather… (not a gentleman)

]]> By: Nob Akimoto http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27783 Nob Akimoto Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:23:55 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27783 I really hope you're being sarcastic. I really hope you’re being sarcastic.

]]> By: The Theology of Papa | The League of Ordinary Gentlemen http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27780 The Theology of Papa | The League of Ordinary Gentlemen Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:25:12 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27780 [...] really should read Br. Will’s post on Ross Douthat’s recent op-ed.  The comment thread is a particularly interesting read and [...] [...] really should read Br. Will’s post on Ross Douthat’s recent op-ed.  The comment thread is a particularly interesting read and [...]

]]> By: Jaybird http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27775 Jaybird Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:22:50 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27775 So long as *SOMEBODY* got it. So long as *SOMEBODY* got it.

]]> By: Herb http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27774 Herb Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:09:54 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27774 "Are secularists like Serwer threatened by a robust public competition between Islam and Christianity? And if so, why?" No offense, Freddie, but in the context of this post, this question doesn't sound as stupid as it does taken out of context... Perhaps it might be because when "robust public competition" becomes too robust...well, it erupts into full-scale jihad? “Are secularists like Serwer threatened by a robust public competition between Islam and Christianity? And if so, why?”

No offense, Freddie, but in the context of this post, this question doesn’t sound as stupid as it does taken out of context…

Perhaps it might be because when “robust public competition” becomes too robust…well, it erupts into full-scale jihad?

]]> By: Katherine http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27770 Katherine Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:21:40 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27770 I think the point is that the Abrahamic faiths are closer to each other than to other religions. I think the point is that the Abrahamic faiths are closer to each other than to other religions.

]]> By: Katherine http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/10/douthat-calls-for-open-religious-warfare-thousands-perish-in-ensuing-crusade/#comment-27769 Katherine Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:18:38 +0000 http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/?p=10294#comment-27769 I'm sorry Roque spoiled what was actually a fairly incisive joke. I’m sorry Roque spoiled what was actually a fairly incisive joke.

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