Comments on: the genuine shame of Ross Douthat’s New York Times column

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Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:56:19 +0000

[...] Freddie at The League: No, what makes me angry is the title of the column, in which Douthat directly analogizes Barack Obama’s Nobel win with Hurricane Katrina. That makes me angry. That makes me livid. Douthat calls the award a “travesty” in his column. That’s funny. To me, a travesty is when an American city is swallowed by the sea and our government and its apparatus of disaster mitigation sit mutely by, in the thrall of a pathetic imbecile and the mad, hideous and immoral ideologues that control him. That is a travesty. The American project sending such a loud and shrill message that we are okay with drowned bodies lying rotting the streets, provided the people those bodies once were were black and poor in life– that is a travesty, and a tragedy. That is a wholly preventable and totally unprecedented crime against this nation, its people, and their dream of what it could possibly be. And that sort of thing, Mr. Douthat, is not an appropriate analog for a president winning a prize, no matter how little you think of it. [...]

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Watcher of Weasels » A Visitor From Another Planet Wonders About Weasels — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:30:46 +0000

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By: b.ens

b.ens — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:42:05 +0000

Ouch Freddie- That really stung! Well said though, I’ll defiantly be thinking about this post for awhile.

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Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:57:22 +0000

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By: Barry

Barry — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:29:20 +0000

BTW, the best reply to Douthat’s pontifications on the Nobel prize is from Daniel Davies (http://d-squareddigest.blogspot.com/2009/10/its-like-raaaaaaiiiiieeeeeeeain-on-your.html):

“Ross Douthat of the New York Times writes on the subject of Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize. I cannot help noticing that when the New York Times came and offered him a column, he did not turn it down saying “no, I clearly do not deserve this honour, others are far more qualified for it that me”.”

By: Mike at The Big Stick

Mike at The Big Stick — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:50:01 +0000

So conservatives were complaining…why should the President care? These are the federal maximum security prisons:

United States Penitentiary, Allenwood — Montgomery, Pennsylvania
United States Penitentiary, Atlanta — Atlanta, Georgia
United States Penitentiary, Atwater — Atwater, California
United States Penitentiary, Beaumont — Beaumont, Texas
United States Penitentiary, Big Sandy — Inez, Kentucky
United States Penitentiary, Canaan — Canaan, Pennsylvania
United States Penitentiary, Florence — Florence, Colorado
United States Penitentiary, Hazelton — Hazelton, West Virginia
United States Penitentiary, Leavenworth — Leavenworth, Kansas
United States Penitentiary, Lee — Jonesville, Virginia
United States Penitentiary, Lewisburg — Lewisburg, Pennsylvania
United States Penitentiary, Lompoc — Lompoc, California
United States Penitentiary, Marion — Marion, Illinois
United States Penitentiary, McCreary — McCreary County, Kentucky
United States Penitentiary, Pollock — Pollock, Louisiana
United States Penitentiary, Tucson — Tucson, Arizona
United States Penitentiary, Victorville — Victorville, California
United States Penitentiary, Terre Haute — Terre Haute, Indiana

Find a state with a Democratic governor and at least one symapthetic Democratic senator and send the prisoners there. This isn’t rocket

By: nick.t.

nick.t. — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:19:09 +0000

Might the problem be not that conservatism is dead or discredited, simply that it has not been part of the mainstream Republican conversation for something like 20 years? In other words, there are lots of Republican sects out there, but relatively few conservatives. I suspect that if you put this idea to people who want the idea of conservatism to have some richer content and greater historical depth than waving the flag and hating the enemy du jour, (i.e. Tanenhaus, Sullivan, Larison) you’d find that they agree on this point.

By: nick.t.

nick.t. — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:54:17 +0000

If Guantanamo and Bagram are “easy fixes” perhaps you could tell me who all those redfaced conservatives are and what they were shouting about? Did I dream of enraged mobs howling about the terrorists being “released” into their states? As for the torture issue in general, how many times have the Cheneys and company polluted our screens to explain that only torture saved America? (And Saddam had WMD, and Republicans are good for the economy, and George Bush saw employment rise, and the recession only began with Obama etc etc….)

By: Jaybird

Jaybird — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:34:01 +0000

“religiously-dogmatic defense of ideologies”?

Dude, you are quoting a paper that explains that the people you happen to disagree with politically are that way because they have psychological shortcomings.

Why should I not come to the conclusion that this is the same thing as someone reading the Fountainhead and saying “yeah! all those other people *DO* suck!!!”?

Why should I take your attitude that I must not have read it if I came to that conclusion (or worse, that I must be one of the people talked about) as anything but, yes, the same thing as that high school student saying “well, you just disagree with the Fountainhead because you suck too! All you people suck!”?

By: aboulien

aboulien — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:51:46 +0000

I can’t get over the drunken mastication thing.