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		<title>By: tcu football schedule 2009 - Mallory Rubin&#62;INSIDE COLLEGE FOOTBALL - SI.com &#124; news bytes</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/11/football-in-the-northeast/#comment-30743</link>
		<dc:creator>tcu football schedule 2009 - Mallory Rubin&#62;INSIDE COLLEGE FOOTBALL - SI.com &#124; news bytes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: greginak</title>
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		<dc:creator>greginak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“fun to renew that rivalry”= easy win with low travel costs.</description>
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		<title>By: timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m high on Connecticut only because it&#039;s so easy to travel between Hartford/Storrs and Boston. Incidentally, BC has played Syracuse more than any other team (including Holy Cross). I believe we&#039;ve got Syracuse back on the schedule, so it could be fun to renew that rivalry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m high on Connecticut only because it&#8217;s so easy to travel between Hartford/Storrs and Boston. Incidentally, BC has played Syracuse more than any other team (including Holy Cross). I believe we&#8217;ve got Syracuse back on the schedule, so it could be fun to renew that rivalry.</p>
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		<title>By: greginak</title>
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		<dc:creator>greginak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Syracuse and Rutgers are natural rivals of BC also. Or at least potentially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syracuse and Rutgers are natural rivals of BC also. Or at least potentially.</p>
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		<title>By: timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we count Boston College as a Northeastern school? We&#039;re still pretty good!

I attended BC during the switch to the Atlantic Coast Conference, and still struggle with my feelings about it. On the one hand, I think the ACC is an incredibly competitive conference (I won&#039;t speak to any comparisons to other conferences in terms of quality; as this post and thread make clear, those comparisons are tough and contentious). To speak in cliche, any team can win a conference game on any given Saturday.

The downside is geographic. BC is the most far-flung of the ACC schools, and the acrimony surrounding the move from the Big East denied us our most natural geographic rival, Connecticut (the only other New England school that plays D-1 football). There&#039;s a lot to be said for geographic rivalries. It&#039;s sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we count Boston College as a Northeastern school? We&#8217;re still pretty good!</p>
<p>I attended BC during the switch to the Atlantic Coast Conference, and still struggle with my feelings about it. On the one hand, I think the ACC is an incredibly competitive conference (I won&#8217;t speak to any comparisons to other conferences in terms of quality; as this post and thread make clear, those comparisons are tough and contentious). To speak in cliche, any team can win a conference game on any given Saturday.</p>
<p>The downside is geographic. BC is the most far-flung of the ACC schools, and the acrimony surrounding the move from the Big East denied us our most natural geographic rival, Connecticut (the only other New England school that plays D-1 football). There&#8217;s a lot to be said for geographic rivalries. It&#8217;s sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Trumwill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trumwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outside of Boise, the WAC really isn&#039;t worth mentioning, really. Nevada and Fresno are good, but on part with Conference USA.

I agree with you on the BE at least as it pertains to the ACC. The Big Ten and Big 8 have history that give it less to prove, on the whole. The Big East&#039;s current configuration doesn&#039;t really have that, though. Neither does the ACC (except Miami, which doesn&#039;t have have a history with the ACC). So it&#039;s not surprising that they would get the short end of the stick. Not saying it&#039;s right, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside of Boise, the WAC really isn&#8217;t worth mentioning, really. Nevada and Fresno are good, but on part with Conference USA.</p>
<p>I agree with you on the BE at least as it pertains to the ACC. The Big Ten and Big 8 have history that give it less to prove, on the whole. The Big East&#8217;s current configuration doesn&#8217;t really have that, though. Neither does the ACC (except Miami, which doesn&#8217;t have have a history with the ACC). So it&#8217;s not surprising that they would get the short end of the stick. Not saying it&#8217;s right, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WAC, with Boise State, probably also belongs in the conversation, especially with Fresno State and Nevada usually putting together very respectable seasons.  

Of course, the central point is that, of the BCS conferences, the Big East is perenially singled out as the red-headed stepchild, with success stories viewed as flukes, while the perenial shortcomings of the other BCS conferences are repeatedly excused as merely being down years.  At some point the opinion makers need to acknowledge that either the Big East is as good a conference as the ACC and perhaps the Big 10 (and certainly better than the Big 12 North) or that the ACC, Big 10, etc. are simply not the powerhouses that they used to be and other conferences need to be added to the BCS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WAC, with Boise State, probably also belongs in the conversation, especially with Fresno State and Nevada usually putting together very respectable seasons.  </p>
<p>Of course, the central point is that, of the BCS conferences, the Big East is perenially singled out as the red-headed stepchild, with success stories viewed as flukes, while the perenial shortcomings of the other BCS conferences are repeatedly excused as merely being down years.  At some point the opinion makers need to acknowledge that either the Big East is as good a conference as the ACC and perhaps the Big 10 (and certainly better than the Big 12 North) or that the ACC, Big 10, etc. are simply not the powerhouses that they used to be and other conferences need to be added to the BCS.</p>
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		<title>By: TheRoundUp: Pictures of an exhibition &#124; TheUConnBlog.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheRoundUp: Pictures of an exhibition &#124; TheUConnBlog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trumwill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trumwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the MWC champion (be it Utah, BYU, or TCU) could beat the champions of the Big East and ACC champs more years than not and the Big Ten many years. I would give them pretty good odds on the Pac 10 champion this year.

The problem with the MWC is that there&#039;s a big drop-off after the first three teams or so. The Big Ten is a much more solid conference. It&#039;s hard to believe that the Big 12 and ACC got so bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the MWC champion (be it Utah, BYU, or TCU) could beat the champions of the Big East and ACC champs more years than not and the Big Ten many years. I would give them pretty good odds on the Pac 10 champion this year.</p>
<p>The problem with the MWC is that there&#8217;s a big drop-off after the first three teams or so. The Big Ten is a much more solid conference. It&#8217;s hard to believe that the Big 12 and ACC got so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: George P</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t forget South Florida beating FSU.  Why would you say that?  What makes you think FSU is any good?  Well, they did pound BYU, and BYU is 7-2 and ranked 22nd.  That fits your definition of a quality out-of-conference win (Ohio) or loss (Penn State), but not mine.

I don&#039;t quite follow that you think beating the worst team in the ACC (Maryland) makes up for the second worst (NC State) beating one of your two best.  Do you think Louisville could beat Clemson?  Do you think Syracuse could beat Georgia Tech?  Do you think South Florida will beat Miami?

I am amused that you are touting Colorado, Marshall, Baylor, Southern Mississippi, and Illinois as evidence of a strong out-of-conference schedule, but I guess they must seem that way from your perspective.

You state that the SEC is &quot;clearly the best conferences in the country&quot; as if that excuses losses to middle-of-the-pack Auburn and 11th best Kentucky.  Do you think Kentucky has contributed to the SEC&#039;s status?  They did beat Auburn, which I guess by your logic puts them above West Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t forget South Florida beating FSU.  Why would you say that?  What makes you think FSU is any good?  Well, they did pound BYU, and BYU is 7-2 and ranked 22nd.  That fits your definition of a quality out-of-conference win (Ohio) or loss (Penn State), but not mine.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t quite follow that you think beating the worst team in the ACC (Maryland) makes up for the second worst (NC State) beating one of your two best.  Do you think Louisville could beat Clemson?  Do you think Syracuse could beat Georgia Tech?  Do you think South Florida will beat Miami?</p>
<p>I am amused that you are touting Colorado, Marshall, Baylor, Southern Mississippi, and Illinois as evidence of a strong out-of-conference schedule, but I guess they must seem that way from your perspective.</p>
<p>You state that the SEC is &#8220;clearly the best conferences in the country&#8221; as if that excuses losses to middle-of-the-pack Auburn and 11th best Kentucky.  Do you think Kentucky has contributed to the SEC&#8217;s status?  They did beat Auburn, which I guess by your logic puts them above West Virginia.</p>
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