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	<title>Comments on: Gay marriage in D.C. ctd.</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the DC council will do what they want and I will laugh my rear end off when the Church shuts down the services they provide through city contracts and the City starts screaming about how bad things are as a result. As a No.Va native, the idea of the DC gov&#039;t running anything competently makes me laugh.

My pro-choice mother worked as a social worker for Catholic Charities for a time and was bound by their restrictions but thought they did a very good job otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the DC council will do what they want and I will laugh my rear end off when the Church shuts down the services they provide through city contracts and the City starts screaming about how bad things are as a result. As a No.Va native, the idea of the DC gov&#8217;t running anything competently makes me laugh.</p>
<p>My pro-choice mother worked as a social worker for Catholic Charities for a time and was bound by their restrictions but thought they did a very good job otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see these people are the intellectual descendants of the progressives who brought us the 18th Amendment and Buck vs. Bell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see these people are the intellectual descendants of the progressives who brought us the 18th Amendment and Buck vs. Bell.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/11/gay-marriage-in-d-c-ctd/#comment-30838</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again this tenditious conflation.

A representative government represents all citizens. Societies evolve and, yes, devolve.

Vatican City is welcome to define &quot;citizen&quot; as something else. Our government does not have that privilege.

You&#039;re telling me Catholicism, a belief system that has survived nearly two thousand years during the most wrenching changes in history, can&#039;t deal with giving warmth and succor to someone based on who they love.

That&#039;s its privilege. But on its own tithe.

This is NOT the same thing as abortion access in federally-facilitated health plans.  Maybe in 110 acres that define the Vatican City.  But not here.

If they are short of money maybe they can peel off some off the gold gilt and gems they use to decorate Cathedrals in some of the poorest villages on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again this tenditious conflation.</p>
<p>A representative government represents all citizens. Societies evolve and, yes, devolve.</p>
<p>Vatican City is welcome to define &#8220;citizen&#8221; as something else. Our government does not have that privilege.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re telling me Catholicism, a belief system that has survived nearly two thousand years during the most wrenching changes in history, can&#8217;t deal with giving warmth and succor to someone based on who they love.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s its privilege. But on its own tithe.</p>
<p>This is NOT the same thing as abortion access in federally-facilitated health plans.  Maybe in 110 acres that define the Vatican City.  But not here.</p>
<p>If they are short of money maybe they can peel off some off the gold gilt and gems they use to decorate Cathedrals in some of the poorest villages on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You write as if their decision to oppose gay marriage was morally neutral or something reasonable people could disagree on&#039;

And there you have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You write as if their decision to oppose gay marriage was morally neutral or something reasonable people could disagree on&#8217;</p>
<p>And there you have it.</p>
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		<title>By: Silus Grok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silus Grok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jaybird … I&#039;m curious about this notion. Mind fleshing it out a bit? (Sincere request … I realize this might have been a throw-away comment, but I&#039;m curious what you mean by it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaybird … I&#8217;m curious about this notion. Mind fleshing it out a bit? (Sincere request … I realize this might have been a throw-away comment, but I&#8217;m curious what you mean by it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Silus Grok</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/11/gay-marriage-in-d-c-ctd/#comment-30713</link>
		<dc:creator>Silus Grok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reasonable people can disagree on gay marriage. And they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasonable people can disagree on gay marriage. And they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Silus Grok</title>
		<link>http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/11/gay-marriage-in-d-c-ctd/#comment-30712</link>
		<dc:creator>Silus Grok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &quot;a gay person might want to work for their oppressors&quot; … really? Their oppressors. Wow. That&#039;s some heavy rhetoric. Wouldn&#039;t &quot;that a married gay person would want to work for folks who don&#039;t support his marriage&quot; suffice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;a gay person might want to work for their oppressors&#8221; … really? Their oppressors. Wow. That&#8217;s some heavy rhetoric. Wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;that a married gay person would want to work for folks who don&#8217;t support his marriage&#8221; suffice?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schilling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schilling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is simply pointing out that it cannot &lt;b&gt;refuses to&lt;/b&gt;  observe these new requirements&lt;/i&gt;

Fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is simply pointing out that it cannot <b>refuses to</b>  observe these new requirements</i></p>
<p>Fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to post-Christianity.

Did you think the Baptists were busybodies? You ain&#039;t seen nothin&#039; yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to post-Christianity.</p>
<p>Did you think the Baptists were busybodies? You ain&#8217;t seen nothin&#8217; yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day what&#039;s more important that the right people, who think (or more accurately say) the right things, help people or that the people who need help get help? 

I mean I&#039;m young but stuff like this makes me feel old, like when did everything become my way or the highway? 

Maybe I&#039;m just being cranky today but can&#039;t we quit forcing life into conveniently flattering but false dichotomies? I just don&#039;t think, at the end of the day, someone getting a warm meal or shelter particularly cares if they&#039;re getting help from Acorn or the Catholic Church and given that charity work isn&#039;t about us (knock on wood), why shouldn&#039;t we leave well enough alone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day what&#8217;s more important that the right people, who think (or more accurately say) the right things, help people or that the people who need help get help? </p>
<p>I mean I&#8217;m young but stuff like this makes me feel old, like when did everything become my way or the highway? </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just being cranky today but can&#8217;t we quit forcing life into conveniently flattering but false dichotomies? I just don&#8217;t think, at the end of the day, someone getting a warm meal or shelter particularly cares if they&#8217;re getting help from Acorn or the Catholic Church and given that charity work isn&#8217;t about us (knock on wood), why shouldn&#8217;t we leave well enough alone?</p>
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