Comments on: Charles Johnson breaks from the right

By: JosephFM

JosephFM — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:14:06 +0000

Hell, Johnson contributed to a lot of these things.

Of course, so did Sullivan, but he realized it years ago.

By: JosephFM

JosephFM — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:10:59 +0000

Sure, the difference is they are not in the leadership and never will be.

By: JosephFM

JosephFM — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:06:20 +0000

Believe me, nobody in the Democratic Party except maybe Kucinich ever took the New SDS seriously at all.

On the other hand, how many Democrats voted for the Iraq War, NCLB, Medicare D, etc? Quite a lot.

By: Mike at The Big Stick

Mike at The Big Stick — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:04:52 +0000

Just as an additional WTF on the point of the lunatic left being fringe…do Congressmen count?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/30020.html

By: Zach

Zach — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:09:37 +0000

RSM doesn't understand why the phrase "states' rights" is problematic in anything other than a 19th-century context, as stated on your own blog:

For some reason, the phrase “states’ rights” has an unusual effect upon some listeners, when the phrase is delivered with a Southern accent. I do not dwell in the past, but find that liberals frequently demand that I discuss 19th-century American history . . . on their terms, of course.

There's some form of bigotry, or at least willing ignorance, in not understanding or pretending not to understand why some listeners can reasonably connect the dots between the 20th century, the South, bigotry, and pleas for "states' rights." There's also some bigotry in stereotyping "any black church" as being against gay marriage. There's a debate within black churches that's as vigorous as any within white churches and a cursory search will give you countless examples. And if you've ever listened to his program, Dobson's problem with homosexuality doesn't start and end with marriage. Lastly, I'm quite certain Code Pink and 9/11 Truthers never managed to get congressional candidates to agree to loyalty pledges. I don't buy the purity of Johnson's conversion or whatever, but Joyner's drawing false equivalences all over the place.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:05:15 +0000

spot on.

By: Jaybird

Jaybird — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:26:37 +0000

Culture 11, I think.

By: Mike at The Big Stick

Mike at The Big Stick — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:23:05 +0000

I’ll take ED’s comments one step farther and say I agree on all points from Joyner (E.D. – you and I will have to agree to disagree on anti-Obama vs anti-Bush being different).

As for the Right’s radicals being mainstream verses the Left’s radicals being fringe…where were you guys during the Bush years?

By: Jaybird

Jaybird — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:05:57 +0000

thats cuz you dont understand that the homophobic WECs have no future

By: Koz

Koz — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:04:12 +0000

Back when matoko_chan used to post here, I thought it was comical how she kept invoking Charles Johnson as an exemplar of the Right. Like that idea had any future.